下文转载自虹科CEO陈秋苑个人频道：陈秋苑-Lashare（视频号）
陈秋苑：朋友们，今天的Share Lab藏着一份特别的缘分——我们请到了我相识十五年的老友、CAN总线传教父、CiA协会主席Holger先生！从工作伙伴到生活挚友，我们见证了彼此的成长，也亲历了CAN技术的全球普及之路。本次闲谈式访谈，我们会聊聊初识时的趣事与中德家庭聚餐的文化碰撞，听听他在CAN发展史上遇到的意外瞬间与“写书命名”的奇思妙想，探寻CAN技术那些意想不到的跨界应用，更会让他给年轻工程师送上箴言，顺便“调侃”我的十五年成长。让我们在轻松的氛围中，感受一位行业泰斗的专业温度与人格魅力。
Q1：“我们认识已经十五年了，回想当初第一次接触 CAN 的时候，真的是从零开始。您能分享一下，当时对我的印象，以及那段经历给您留下了什么特别的记忆吗？”
We’ve known each other for fifteen years. Looking back to the first time I got introduced to CAN, I was a complete beginner.
Could you share your first impression of me and special memories that period left you with?
Holger：
My special memory was that you were very young and you looked like a pupil, not an engineer, so that I regarded you as my daughter.
I need to explain something to you, to foster you and your personality, as well as your knowledge in CAN technology.
Lashare:
Yeah indeed I really appreciate it a lot. You are just like my teacher and my professor in the CAN world.
Q2: “在过去的这些年里，我们曾多次在彼此家庭聚会。您觉得在中德家庭聚餐中，有哪些有趣的差异或者小趣事，让您印象深刻？”
Over the years, we’ve had many gatherings with each other’s families. What interesting differences or little stories in these Chinese and German family meals have left a strong impression on you?
Holger：
When I recalled my visit in your family. It was surprising that you didn’t like cooking, and with your husband and your father-in-law, we were three men in the kitchen and we cooked together. This was very interesting. In Germany, It’s normal that the women are cooking, sometimes also the men are cooking like me.
So I like to cook, and this is the difference between us: I like to cook and you don’t like it.
Lashare:
Yeah so this is why you are my German father right? We know each other because of business, but we are also indeed close friends. I still remember that we are always kidding, “this is private Lashare, or this is business Lashare”. So now following, I will act as more business version…
Q3: “谈到 CAN 的发展历史，您有没有遇到过让自己哭笑不得或者特别意外的瞬间？如果把 CAN 的故事写成一本书，您会给它取个什么名字？”
Speaking of CAN’s development history, have there been moments that were both surprising and amusing to you?
If you were to write a book about CAN, what title would you give it?
Holger：
I would choose the title between the lines or CAN between the lines. Because not everything that’s technically explained is telling the true story. There are more to the story and that context is sometimes hidden between the lines.
Q4: “随着全球各地对 CAN 技术的应用越来越广泛，您有没有遇到过一些特别有意思的案例，让您觉得‘原来我们的技术被用在这种地方’？”
With CAN technology being applied more widely around the world, have you come across any particularly interesting cases that made you think, “So this is where our technology is being used?”
Holger：
There are many applications of CAN that’s we’re proud of. But there are also things we are not proud of and this is when CAN technology is used in military weapons.
You know all the drones have mainly CAN embedded and this is where I don’t like. It’s because this might be that I’m the CiA managing director, a worldwide (association), non-profit association and I don’t like that my members kill each other.
Q5: “回顾这十五年的职业经历，如果给年轻的工程师或者刚入行的自己一句建议，您会说什么？同时，您有没有想调侃我这些年的成长？”
Looking back over these fifteen years, if you could give one piece of advice to young engineers or your younger self and the younger Lashare starting out, what would it be?
Holger：
I think there is one thing engineers whether young or old should avoid. We should not reinvent the wheel. We should always look and learn from the elder people. And the elder people should share their knowledge with the younger ones. So don’t waste me! Ask me!
Lashare:
Yes! Because Holger is very experienced. Holger is very open-minded, and he also has really a lot of knowledge in his mind. And he is really always like to share and always ready to share.
So this is why we are close friends. Because I am Lashare, I like to share and my friend is also sharing always!
My dear old friend, now it is a big hug time for our 15th anniversary!!
